Movie lovers are a pretty intense bunch. And we should know - we’re rather insane movie lovers ourselves. But it seems that two classes of film lovers are poised for an all-out war. A recent /film blog post reports that The Dark Knight has overtaken The Godfather on the IMDb Top 250 list:
The Godfather has fallen to the #3 spot, after nearly a decade at the top of the Internet Movie Database’s listing of the Top 250 Movies of All Time [...]The Dark Knight overtook The Godfather’s throne, but this latest development is really interesting because it might show evidence of a fanboy mob at work. Could it be that Dark Knight fans are intentionally voting down Godfather in hopes of keeping The Dark Knight at the top spot? Why else would The Shawshank Redemption have overtaken The Godfather in a time when neither film is in the public forefront? The percentage of users who gave Godfather a 1 out of 10 (the lowest rating possible) grew from 6.1% to 6.4%, just enough to push Shawshank ahead, while the percentage of participating users who loved the film, giving it a 10 out of 10, remained the same (57%). It’s also worth noting that while any IMDb user can vote and effect a movie’s overall rating, only regular IMDb users can influence the film’s top 250 placement.
Nevermind the irony; The Dark Knight is in part about an insane, brilliant criminal besting the mob world. The problem is, this isn’t a question about which one is better. This isn’t McCain vs. Obama - after all, The Godfather is a frickin’ bad-ass movie. And as far as Batman goes, Ledger’s performance as The Joker is, as everyone is aware, pretty much one of the best-performed roles any of us have ever seen. No, comparing the two movies is hardly useful. The real question is whether or not The Dark Knight can stand the test of time, as The Godfather has. That will take a bit of time, so that whatever hype still exists concerning The Dark Knight will have settled into genuine criticism. The IMDb Top 250 as currently rendered is not really sophistocated enough to handle that type of comparison. So how can we control for new movies making a big splash?

For starters, the formula used to calculate the list (at the bottom of the Top 250 page) could incorporate temporal effects, so that movies that have been consistently popular throughout time would be rated higher than movies whose true mettle has not been tested by the sands of time. (I’ll try to keep this post supremely non-technical, so as not to scare anyone away, but those of you who would understand the necessary math can probably imagine what I’m thinking. Perhaps next time we can delve into the math-ey stuff). A statistician or econometrician would have already thought of a few ways of using ratings over time. So consider the following: The Godfather has been number one for about ten years, and has had a consistent number of people continually rate it high over the course of the IMDB’s tenure. That’s the mark of a good movie - if new generations rediscover it, and love it just as much as those who first saw it, then that movie is a real winner. If a movie makes a big splash when it first comes out, but putters about years (or even months) after (or simply fades away), then it doesn’t deserve its spot. Its hard to say whether or not it’ll matter for The Dark Knight in the long run, but I bet you’d see some serious reshuffling of the other movies on the list. The Incredibles might finally lose to The Graduate. Finally.
The Dark Knight is a great movie - everyone at HelloMovies adored it (except Stan, but he hates everything
) - but if we have to wait to see whether or not people will rate it consistently well enough over time to consider it a classic, then we might as well factor the movie’s age and temporal distribution of ratings into the Top 250 calculation and save movie fans the trouble. That way, if a bunch of fanboys vote down Vito Corleone, nothing saddening like the don dropping to number three could ever occur, unless said fanboys somehow manage a many-years long siege on that castle. And it’s not like the IMDb doesn’t have data to tune the right parameters to make it happen, either. No doubt IMDb has probably thought of this already, but it’s mighty hard to change an institution like the Top 250 and keep users from revolting. But hey, any true movie fan should already be raging against the machine on this amazing upset. This might be just the catalyst IMDb needs to change things up!
